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 polytheists - (tybaltbroods)
 
04:01pm 22/07/2009
 
 
Ty posting in Livejournal Polytheists
 So Im beginning to wonder who my divine patron is,  I am fairly sure that The god or Goddess will be from the Nordic or Celtic Pantheon

what im wondering is are there any good books in the study of either of these pantheons that someone can steer me towards for my own benefit of knowing more about them


thanks in advance!

oh and Merry meet! im new here. 
 
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 novelog
 
09:22pm 22/07/2009 (UTC)
 
 
What calls you to those pantheons? Why do you think this? Are there signs, feelings, sights, smells, sounds you associate with the deity who is calling?

You might have better luck letting one choose you, as opposed to reading books and "shopping" for deities. Better to have the image of the one who is contacting you in your mind first and trying to find them than looking at say, Thor, and saying subconsciously, "Wow, he's cool, I want that one" for egotistical reasons. In my experience, when you call to a deity you've chosen yourself, oftentimes another, very different one answers.
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 tybaltbroods
 
10:48pm 22/07/2009 (UTC)
 
 
Ty
Forgive me if this sounds, rude but im a little insulted by this implication that im shopping for a patron. Due to my ethic heritage i resonate strongly with the idea of both the nordic and celtic pantheons and wish to study them further in the hopes that my patron will reveal themselves to me. While i like the Greeco-Roman and Egyptian Pantheons they do nothing to resonate with my soul. So i would hardly say im "shopping" im merely wishing to learn more.
 
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 novelog
 
12:12am 23/07/2009 (UTC)
 
 
I'm sorry if I sounded snarkier than I meant to--but I also didn't know why you were going after Norse/Celtic. Sometimes people can be very arbitrary about who/what they're going after. "I'm beginning to wonder who my divine patron is" sounded a lot like you expected to have one.

You could start journaling to try and pick up hints and then aggregate them for future reference. Some strange coincidence involving water happened weekly? That could be a clue. Etc. etc.

If you feel like someone is trying to contact you, you might want to read this post on deity communication. Keep in mind that it is only one viewpoint out there, however.

I found Essential Asatru by Diana L. Paxson useful when I was first starting out. As far as Norse/Anglo-Saxson paganism is concerned, Encyclopedia Mythica is a good online resource, as is Englatheod.org. I merely commented as I did because Tyr found me first before I had any idea that it would be the Aesir and Vanir that wanted me--I found Heathenry through my patron. But people do have different experiences--as numerous as there are individuals.

Good luck in searching.

Edited at 2009-07-23 12:19 am (UTC)
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 the_resonance
 
06:03pm 23/07/2009 (UTC)
 
 
I think it is perfectly natural for a human to CHOOSE a family of Gods, or even a patron because they are attracted to the culture they came from, or because the deity has attributes that make them attractive or suitable as objects of worship. I believe that the deities welcome worship from most people, and you will learn who you have a better connection with over time. If you were to simply start making offerings to Thor, for example, I dont believe that Thor would mind. Only the Gods themselves have the authority to choose who they will and will not receive worship from, or who they will enter into closer relationships with. I do not agree with many of the assertions i see in the Neopagan and Reconstructionist communities that these things have to be based 100% on personal Gnosis. Human beings can choose the Gods they worship. You do not have to wait for Lugh to knock on your door and appear in person before you can offer him a libation.

Your patronage will happen slowly over time. It is also possible that you do not have a natural patron, or that you are fated to have one. Closer relationships with gods may happen slowly as you offer worship and internalize the myths.
 
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 novelog
 
11:27pm 23/07/2009 (UTC)
 
 
Absolutely, you may worship any Diety you like from any pantehon. But to claim them as your patron without any feedback from them? That's a little dubious.
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 tybaltbroods
 
11:42pm 23/07/2009 (UTC)
 
 
Ty
and i was never saying i was going to just claim the first Deity that jumped out at at me, what i did say was that i wanted to investigate these pantheons so i would know what i was looking at when it came to me
 
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 novelog
 
11:46pm 23/07/2009 (UTC)
 
 
I guess it just didn't come out that way in your original post.
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 tybaltbroods
 
11:57pm 23/07/2009 (UTC)
 
 
Ty
what from my post led you to believe that i was gonna go shopping for a Deity, all i said was that i was certain i knew the actual pantheon the God or Goddess would be from ( admittedly i didn't explain why, but do i have to explain a feeling?) but that i was honestly very un-educated about them and wished to learn more about the pantheons as a whole.
 
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